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From: daver@winternet.com (Dave Roberts)
Newsgroups: winternet.gripes,winternet.general,winternet.help,mn.general,mn.online-service
Subject: Re: Where is my mail??
Date: 11 Jul 96 23:48:29 GMT
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Dan Maus <almondo@mynet.org> writes:
[snip]
This problem also occured at interactive.net, a provider I help manage and
which used to have a close association with Winternet (well, Mike Horwath,
really..)
I lack Dan Maus' patience. I nuked the queue. If you don't get your mail,
well, that's not my fault.
If anyone from the ISP formerly known as Winternet is reading this, I
formally request that you remove all references to my network
(interactive.net) from your systems, including mail (which we never had
anything to do with originally.. I appreciate adding those MX records
without consulting me), news, DNS, or anything else Mike may have relied
on us for. Under Mike's management, I could depend on Winternet for fast,
reliable backup and peer services; now, this is obviously not the case.
[postmaster and root will also be receiving this message.]
If your staff is incapable of performing these procedures, I'll be more
than happy to provide instructions.
Dave
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:: InterActive Networks, Inc., Paterson, New Jersey :: http://WWW.ACE.NET ::
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From: ulwellj@winternet.com (Amy & Jim Ulwelling)
Newsgroups: winternet.gripes,winternet.general,winternet.help,mn.general,mn.online-service
Subject: Re: Where is my mail??
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:31:02 GMT
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Dan Maus <almondo@mynet.org> wrote:
>This may be hard to believe, but I probably have it.
>I am one of 2 sites holding massive amounts of their mail (Interactive.net is
>the other). I now hold over 3675 messages(47.7 meg) of Winternet mail.
>
>We probably have your mail...and this is why:
>
>And to be on topic for winternet.suggestions, I hereby suggest that you guys
>figure out what is wrong before this puts you, and your customers
>out of business.
>
> Dan
GIVE IT TO ME!!!! Damn, I'm really hating this company more and more
every day!
jim
ulwellj@winternet.com
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From: joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: winternet.gripes,winternet.general,winternet.help,mn.general,mn.online-service
Subject: Re: Where is my mail??
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:30:30
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In article <31e59c9e.788781512@news.winternet.com> ulwellj@winternet.com (Amy & Jim Ulwelling) writes:
>Dan Maus <almondo@mynet.org> wrote:
>>This may be hard to believe, but I probably have it.
>>I am one of 2 sites holding massive amounts of their mail (Interactive.net is
>>the other). I now hold over 3675 messages(47.7 meg) of Winternet mail.
>>
>>We probably have your mail...and this is why:
>>
>>And to be on topic for winternet.suggestions, I hereby suggest that you guys
>>figure out what is wrong before this puts you, and your customers
>>out of business.
>>
>> Dan
>GIVE IT TO ME!!!! Damn, I'm really hating this company more and more
>every day!
>jim
>ulwellj@winternet.com
Too late. Dan Maus announced that he'd dumped the mail, because, as I
understand it, he couldn't keep storing it while the folks running Winternet
try to get their system under control.
Sigh.
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From: sjwalter@winternet.com (Scott J. Walter)
Newsgroups: winternet.gripes,winternet.general,winternet.help,mn.general,mn.online-service
Subject: Re: Where is my mail??
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:58:15 GMT
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ulwellj@winternet.com (Amy & Jim Ulwelling) wrote:
>GIVE IT TO ME!!!! Damn, I'm really hating this company more and more
>every day!
It's time to stop hating ... it's time to leave
-"Scotty"
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From: John_Seemann-Admin@compsoup.com (John Seemann-Admin)
Newsgroups: winternet.general
Subject: Re: Where is my mail??
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:21:38 -0500
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OK,
Time for a JohnUNDERSCORESeemannDASHAdmin's education again.
If I understand Dave's message below correctly, winternet just lost
it's secondary DNS. This is somewhat serious isn't it?
Please, somebody explain to me the consequences of this on services.
Thanks,
JohnUNDERSCOREnotgettingmuchsleepthesedaysSeemannDASHwishingthiswouldgoa
wayAdminhopefullyforawhilelonger.
>From: daver@winternet.com (Dave Roberts)
>Subject: Re: Where is my mail??
>Date: 11 Jul 96 23:48:29 GMT
>
>Dan Maus <almondo@mynet.org> writes:
>[snip]
>
>This problem also occured at interactive.net, a provider I help manage
>and
>which used to have a close association with Winternet (well, Mike
>Horwath,
>really..)
>
>I lack Dan Maus' patience. I nuked the queue. If you don't get your
>mail,
>well, that's not my fault.
>
>If anyone from the ISP formerly known as Winternet is reading this, I
>formally request that you remove all references to my network
>(interactive.net) from your systems, including mail (which we never
>had
>anything to do with originally.. I appreciate adding those MX records
>without consulting me), news, DNS, or anything else Mike may have
>relied
>on us for. Under Mike's management, I could depend on Winternet for
>fast,
>reliable backup and peer services; now, this is obviously not the
>case.
>
>[postmaster and root will also be receiving this message.]
>
>If your staff is incapable of performing these procedures, I'll be
>more
>than happy to provide instructions.
>
>Dave
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